Ming Dynasty: Teaching The Prince Dragon-Slaying Skills At The Beginning

Chapter 657: The Princes’ Arguments And Rebuttals Triggered Another Hidden Danger Of National Subjug



Chapter 657: The Princes’ Arguments And Rebuttals Triggered Another Hidden Danger Of National Subjug

On the podium, Yan Changqing looked at Zhu Yuanzhang and the princes Zhu Biao, Zhu Di, Zhu Fan, Zhu Di and other princes below, and asked with a smile:

"Although as I just said, all the candidates who were admitted to the National Examination are from the South and none from the North, the probability of happening is relatively small, but it is not completely impossible to happen.

"In fact, privately now, a small number of candidates from the north who failed to pass the examination have begun to secretly murmur that the examination was unfair."

"It's just that today's Northern Examination Scholars still occupy one-fifth of the places for those who passed the examination, so although those Northern Examination Scholars who failed the examination are dissatisfied, they can still hold it in."

"However, if the quota share of Northern Examination Scholars on the examination list is further reduced to about one-tenth, then it is estimated that the dissatisfaction in the hearts of those Northern Examination Scholars who have failed will be difficult to suppress."

"After all, I worked hard for more than ten years, but in the end it was difficult to get on the exam list. So there must be a reason to convince myself, right?!!"

“Is it because I don’t know enough?!”

“Or did you fail to pass the test questions?!!”

"Or maybe I am unwell or in a daze, causing my performance to be abnormal?!!"

“Or maybe the imperial examination was unfair, with the examiner and co-examiners practicing favoritism and favoring others?!”

"If they are the only ones who fail, then they may think it is because of their lack of knowledge.

"But if there are many people who fail the exam together with me, and they are all Northern candidates like me."

"Then when there are large numbers of people and strong public sentiment, they will naturally look for reasons elsewhere."

"For example, is it because most of the examiners and co-examiners are from the South, so they favor candidates from the South more?!!"

"After all, it's impossible that more than 90% of northern candidates have insufficient knowledge, right?!!"

"There's no way the gap in knowledge between the northern and southern scholars is so big, right?!!"

"As long as this idea comes together, then there will be a large number of candidates from the north who will fail the examination, and they will begin to collectively question whether the examination is fair!!!"

“If something like this really happens, how will Your Majesty and Your Highnesses plan to deal with it?!”

"In other words, how do Your Majesty and Your Highnesses plan to prevent this kind of thing from happening?!!"

After hearing Yan Changqing's last words, both Zhu Yuanzhang and the ten princes including Crown Prince Zhu Biao, Zhu Di, Zhu Nan and Zhu Di all frowned and thought deeply.

After quite a while, Zhu Yuanzhang, who had been bowing his head in deep thought, rarely took the initiative to express his thoughts:

"Since there is such a huge gap in education and cultural level between the northern and southern candidates, how about selecting candidates separately from the north and the south?!!"

"The Southern Examinations are in a separate volume and one list, and the Northern Examinations are in another volume and one list."

"In this way, there will be no disputes between the northern and southern civil servants because which side has more civil servants on the list."

In Zhu Yuanzhang's view, since the same list would easily lead to a situation where the south is more numerous and the north is less, and the northern candidates are prone to resentment, then he would just open another ten list.

In this way, the northern and southern civil servants no longer have to compete with each other to see which one has more names and which one has fewer. They will each compete with those from the same region.

In this way, even if the exams from the north and the south fail, it will not be considered to be the result of the examiner or fellow examiners engaging in malpractice and favoring a certain region.

After Prince Zhu Biao, who was frowning and thinking, heard his father's idea, he also thought it was a good idea. Then he followed this idea and further expanded and added:

"After being divided into northern and southern volumes, the number of civil servants and scholars in the south is larger, while the number of civil servants and scholars in the north is smaller."

"Then the candidates from the north and the south can be selected according to the standard of 60% in the south and 40% in the north, so that the number of officials from the north and the south will be roughly the same."

As soon as Prince Zhu Biao finished speaking, King Qin Zhu Xi frowned and retorted:

"inappropriate!"

"inappropriate!!"

"inappropriate!!!"

"Since we want to be fair, we should select soldiers according to the standard of 50% from the south and 50% from the north. This is fair!!!"

However, just as Qin King Zhu Xi had finished refuting Prince Zhu Biao, Jin King Zhu Fan immediately refuted Qin King Zhu Di:

"This is even more unfair!!!"

"The number of scholars in the south is far greater than the number of scholars in the north. If we want to select scholars according to the standard of 50% in the south and 50% in the north."

"Then the difficulty of the imperial examination competition for southern scholars must be far greater than that of northern scholars!!!"

“How can this be considered fair to the southern scholars?!!”

“Is it the fault of the southern scholars themselves that there are so many scholars in the south?!!”

"It's better to follow the standard that big brother said at the beginning, 60% from the south and 40% from the north!!!"

Jin King Zhu Fan had just finished expressing his opinion, but Yan King Zhu Di on the other side shook his head and retorted in the same way:

"I think it's better to select soldiers according to the standard of 50% from the south and 50% from the north as mentioned by the second brother."

"Nowadays, there are more scholars in the south and fewer in the north, which has led to fierce competition in the imperial examinations in the south, while competition in the imperial examinations in the north is easier.

"And this, once the scholars from the north and the south know about it."

"Then those southern scholars and scholars who want to be more sure of passing the Jinshi examination will inevitably move to the north actively and in large numbers!!!"

"In this way, it not only solves the problem of the scarcity of scholars in the north in disguise, but also promotes the exchange and integration between scholars from the north and the south!!!"

"I think this is more beneficial to the country and the court!!!"

Zhou Wang Zhu Zhu, who was sitting next to Yan Wang Zhu Di, had not spoken yet. Chu Wang Zhu Zhen on the other side also shook his head and also refuted his fourth brother:

“Fourth brother’s words are also inappropriate!!!”

"If those Southern scholars and scholars who took the initiative to move north were listed as Northern scholars and became Jinshi."

"Then are they considered to be civil servants and scholars from the south, or are they civil servants and scholars from the north?!!"

"In the eyes of the southern candidates and scholars, they have abandoned the southern candidates and scholars for the sake of Jinshi quota!!!"

"In the eyes of the northern candidates and scholars, they have usurped the Jinshi quota that originally belonged to the northern candidates and scholars!!!"

"In the end, the governors and scholars in the south will most likely think that they are traitors!!!"

"And the scholars and scholars in the north will most likely think that they are outsiders!!!"

"I'm afraid that in the end, none of the officials and scholars in the north and south will accept them!!!"

"At that time, they who have been excluded by the scholars from the north and the south may form their own faction again and fight with the officials from the north and the south in the court, causing many unnecessary disturbances again!!!"

As soon as Chu King Zhu Zhen finished speaking his opinion, Zhu Shu, who was sitting next to him, suddenly had a different opinion:

"I don't agree with what Sixth Brother said!!!"

"As mentioned earlier, officials who were born in the south, but were elected as northern candidates, and became Jinshi, they have both elements of the north and the south!!!"

"Then they can no longer favor a certain region when formulating policies, because they are both southern scholars and northern scholars at the same time."

"In this way, they will be able to break away from the shackles of their identities in the north and south, and truly govern the people from the perspective of the entire court, country, and world."

"Such officials are truly officials who belong to the Ming Dynasty, rather than officials who belong to a certain region!!!"

"So I think those officials who are purely from the south or purely from the north should be dismissed, and then all officials who have elements of both the north and the south should be replaced!!!"

"Or let the current officials from the south be contaminated with northern elements, and let the officials from the north be contaminated with southern elements, so that they will no longer be divided into regions, and there will no longer be regional disputes."

Zhou Wang Zhu Ju, who had been watching for a long time, was smiling and squinting his eyes at the moment, as if he was watching the excitement and said it was not a big deal:

"How about changing the North and South rolls to North and South mid rolls?!!"

"After all, the territory of Ming Dynasty is vast, if it is simply divided into north and south."

"I'm afraid that on the border between the north and the south, the ministers from the north and the south may not be able to reach a satisfactory result even if they argue for three days and three nights about which part belongs to the south and which part belongs to the north."

"After all, it doesn't matter whether we select soldiers according to the standard of 60% from the south and 40% from the north; or whether we select soldiers according to the standard of 50% from the south and 50% from the north."

"In the end, there will inevitably be one party whose imperial examination competition is slightly less difficult, and the other party's imperial examination competition that is slightly more difficult."

"As for the part of the border between the north and the south, I definitely hope that I will be on the side where the imperial examination competition is less difficult."

Zhu Yuanzhang, who was sitting at the back, couldn't help but be dumbfounded while listening to the arguments among his sons.

He just put forward a preliminary idea, and he hadn't even thought about the following content yet.

As a result, my sons not only supplemented and improved it, but also found out many advantages and disadvantages of this idea!!!

More importantly, regardless of what Prince Zhu Biao said, the idea of ​​selecting scholars based on the number of sons and scholars in the north and south was formulated as 60% in the south and 40% in the north.

Or maybe it was the reason why Qin King Zhu Di said that for the sake of fairness between the north and the south, he set the standard of 50% for the south and 5% for the north.

Or maybe it was the standard of 50% in the south and 50% in the north mentioned by King Zhu Fan of the Jin Dynasty, which was a refutation of the unfairness of the candidates and scholars in the south where there were many candidates.

Or maybe the standard of fifty percent in the south and fifty percent in the north as mentioned by King Zhu Di of Yan can help solve the scarcity of scholars and scholars in the north in a disguised way, and promote exchanges and exchanges between scholars and scholars in the north and south. The benefits of integration.

Or maybe it was the Chu King Zhu Zhen's worry that officials who were born in the south, but were listed as northern candidates, and became Jinshi, were rejected by both southern parties and formed their own faction.

Or it may be that Qi King Zhu Bo believed that officials from the north and south who were not shackles of regional identity were the 497 officials who belonged to the Ming Dynasty.

Or maybe it’s Zhou Wang Zhu’s suggestion to change the Northern and Southern Volumes into the Northern and Southern Middle Volumes.

He thinks everything makes perfect sense!!!

But most of his views, which he thinks are very reasonable, are contradictory to each other!!!

For a moment, Zhu Yuanzhang didn't know which one to listen to.

【Are we really old?!!】

[Can’t even tell which one is right and which one is wrong?!!]

[But the old one is so good, I can’t tell the difference!!!]

[Even we can’t tell right from wrong, so it means that even if the boss’s views on national affairs have not surpassed Hibiki’s, at least they have grown to the point where they can truly take charge!!!]

【Looks like it won’t be long before I say no.

I’m sure we can retire and become the Taishang Emperor!!!]

Seeing all the sons in front of him arguing and refuting each other with reason and calmness, Zhu Yuanzhang suddenly felt a sense of disappointment and joy that his son had grown up.

Mixed emotions.

On the podium, Yan Changqing also looked at the princes Zhu Biao, Zhu Xi, Zhu Fan, Zhu Di and other princes arguing and rebutting below with a faint smile on his lips.

He was not surprised that Zhu Yuanzhang would propose that the north and the south should recruit scholars separately.

After all, in the original history, it was Zhu Yuanzhang who set the precedent for the north and the south to recruit scholars separately.

But what surprised him was that when Zhu Yuanzhang just proposed the crude idea of ​​separating the north and the south.

While the princes Zhu Biao, Zhu Xi, Zhu Gang, Zhu Di and other princes further supplemented and perfected this idea, they each saw the north and south take separate views without him needing to mention it.

There are many advantages and disadvantages behind being a scholar!!!

This shows that the princes Zhu Biao, Zhu Xi, Zhu Fan, Zhu Di and other princes have begun to understand the subtleties, and their perspective on the changes and development of things has become more and more long-term!!!

This can be said to be a very big improvement compared to a few years ago.

Yan Changqing just listened quietly to the princes Zhu Biao, Zhu Xi, Zhu Fan, Zhu Di and other princes arguing and refuting each other.

It was not until less than half an hour passed that the princes Zhu Biao, Zhu Di, Zhu Gang, Zhu Di and other princes all talked to each other until their mouths were dry and gradually stopped [Yan Changqing just looked at them gently

smiled and said:

"Congratulations to all of you, Your Highnesses, for triggering another major potential danger of national subjugation - party strife!!!"

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